Ken Lay, R.I.P.

Keny LayIn May, I wrote about what I thought was the political significance of the Enron convictions and of the Ken Lay saga. It turns out that the end of the story happened this morning when Ken Lay died of a massive heart attack. R.I.P.

“Enron Founder Ken Lay Dead of Heart Attack” – Washington Post

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13 thoughts on “Ken Lay, R.I.P.”

  1. Let’s talk about Ken Lay resting in peace right after his will gives back the billions of dollars bilked from shareholders.

  2. “But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.” -Jesus (Luke 6:27-28)

    “Bless those who persecute you; bless and curse not. Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep.” -Paul (Romans 12:14-15)

  3. I get it Denny. But here was another guy who claimed and claimed and claimed to be a Christian, which means the following things:

    1) He did wrong and he didn’t repent. According to Paul, he should have been booted out of his church and shunned until he repented. He never did, as far as we know. His will, I assume, will be his last chance for earthly repentance for his grievous sin.

    2) I can only assume that he was one of the many to whom Jesus will say, “Go away, I don’t know you.” or, “What you do to the least of these, you do to me.” So, he stole from Jesus, lied to Jesus, made no attempt to make things right with Jesus and then proclaimed his innocence to Jesus as hundreds of thousands of people suffered.

    So, you’re right Denny, I should think nicely of the guy. The only problem is, he’s one of the modern day curses on Christianity. When people get to point at Dr. Mohler, Ken Lay, George W. Bush, Jimmy Swaggart, John Hagee, Joel Osteen or Creflo Dollar and say “That’s Christianity” they’re able to say “look at the fruit of that tree! Let’s go become Buddhists!” Their actions, I guarantee, have pushed people away from Christ. And if I remember correctly, Paul said that it will be very bad in the end for those who have helped people stray from God. Which is exactly what these egotistical and smarmy characters have done. Ken Lay included.

    I feel bad for his family because he is a father and a brother and a son. And I wish them the best.

  4. also Denny, a question:

    why are you quick to R.I.P. a guy who had nothing but contempt for those “beneath” him, but we see no eulogies for true men of God? Why do we get defenses of jerks who bilked millions out of billions of dollars, but no praises of those who are out in the trenches spreading the Word? Why does Bush’s inner circle get the love when obviously, there are others far more worthy of a Christian’s time? It’s a serious question of a brother in Christ that deserves a serious answer.

  5. Paul,

    This post is not a eulogy. I specifically intended not to render a judgment on this man’s life.

    I only write “RIP” because after a person dies, they do face a judgment, the only judgment that counts. My hope for anyone going there is that they would be ready for it.

    Thanks,
    Denny

  6. Denny,

    1) mentioning him at all gives creedence to a life that deserved NONE.

    2) No matter where the truth comes from, it’s still the truth, even if it’s from…gasp…SOCIALISTS!

    At least they care for their poor, you know, like Jesus told us to do…

    Paul

  7. Paul,

    I know you said in another comment that you once were a libertarian. Are you a socialist now?

    Thanks,
    Denny

  8. Denny,

    not quite. Someone else handed off that article to me, and I passed it along.

    However, while I haven’t quite made the 180 degree turn from libertarian to socialism, I believe that Germany and Sweden might be on the right tracks. Why, you ask?

    (sorry, you’re catching the brunt of me being out of work with laryngitis. Can’t be at work, and can’t MC the events I was supposed to this evening, either…)

    First off, we think that socialized medicine costs so much, but why don’t we take a step back and look at the big picture here for a second…

    1) why have so many American companies either folded, gone bankrupt or sent most of their labor/blue collar jobs to other countries?

    Answer: benefits costs. By the time that you figure in the costs of medical insurance, life insurance, unemployment insurance, matching retirement benefits, etc, etc, etc, it is expensive to do business here. And when you figure that both Chevy and Ford’s cheapest cars are made outside of America, it starts to make a little sense. Yes, some of that blame can be placed with unions who drove up labor costs beyond reasonable levels, but most of the blame has to be laid at the feet of the American government which can’t seem to realize that taxing the people a little bit more to give the people more would be the most business friendly move that the government can make. American businesses can’t compete. In almost every case, the competition can make a better product at a better price.

    Or, in other words, I’ll put my $21K VW GTI up against any other American car in that price range. No American car will handle as well, be as fast on the straightaways, be as mechanically competent or be able to carry an entire set of drums and a wife for the same price.

    Strangely, even in the high end drum market, the Americans are more expensive! How does it work that in the country that makes most of the world’s commercial maple, that my Japanese Yamahas with Kenner shells are cheaper than an American set of DW’s with the EXACT SAME SHELLS? Labor costs, my friend.

    You want to be good to American business? Cut their labor costs. Want to cut their labor costs? Kill off the lobbying of health insurance providers and allow socialized medicine. Want to provide decent medical coverage under a socialized medicine plan? Do two things:

    1) Make it a state, not a federal thing. Too much beaurocracy is bad for everyone. Just ask teachers.

    2) Go the Germany route. Make everything a co-pay. Yes, it might get a tad dicey, but building up a medical debt $20 at a time is more manageable than medical debt being built at $1000-10000 per time.

    Next, Free public education. Let’s face it, the bachelor’s degree is today’s High School diploma. Very few will ever get a decent job without one. Yet, for the privelege of that degree, we’re willing to charge our young people at least $20000 and in most cases, probably closer to $60000-100000. For an MBA that guarantees you a job with a Wall Street Company with lifetime job security? Sure. For a social worker? You’ve got to be kidding me. My wife is still paying off loans from six years ago, and I’m getting ready to go back to college to finish off my degree. And it ain’t going to be cheap. $16K per year, and any loans that I take out will now be at 7%. No wonder there are so many business, accounting and law degrees and so few social work, education and peace studies degrees. Let’s face it, we’re probably the least educated of the first world countries. And we’re also the most violent. We also have the highest abortion and single mother rates. Why? Because we don’t value education as a nation. And we have all of the worst statistics to prove it. On the other hand, Sweden has 100% literacy, and virtually no crime. Coincidence? Probably not.

    Those two alone would probably make all of the difference in the world. It would save businesses gobs of money, and it would make students fresh out of school more active spenders in the marketplace. And if taxes were raised to support this, BUT tax deductions were still allowed for charitable contributions, I guarantee we would see a vast increase of charitable giving across the board as well.

    Of course, I’m saying this to Christians that think that we should eliminate the two biggest excuses for charitable giving among the rich in the first place.

    Make sense?

    Paul

  9. Wasn’t this a post just to say that Ken Lay was dead? How did it end up on Socialism? What happened to common courtesy of sticking to the subject of a thread?

    And I’m not sure it does make sense.

    Jason

  10. Jason,

    please read. Denny asked a question. I answered it. And if my response doesn’t make sense, I highly suggest reading The Economist on a regular basis.

    Love,

    Paul

  11. Paul,

    Touché regarding the answering a question (although I would have been satisfied with a yes or no, no offense 😉 ).

    Concerning suggested reading material, I really don’t enjoy reading much (I especially doubt I’d enjoy reading about economics. I still haven’t made it through the one book on the subject that I actually thought I wanted to read). So I doubt I’ll take you up on your suggestion, but thanks though.

    Jason

  12. one last one and I promise to lay out of this one forever. This was a quote made at his funeral by the Pastor, Dr. William Lawson…

    “Ken Lay was neither black nor poor as James Byrd was. But I’m angry because he was the victim of a lynching.”

    If reverends are allowed to twist the truth like that IN CHURCH, mind you, then The Church as we know it is truly seeing some sad days.

    If this is the caliber of people that Shrub hangs out with, then our country is truly seeing some sad days.

    Sure, these people all believe in a god. But with comments like that, it is clear that their god is money. And we as Christians, are supposed to know better than to associate ourselves with idoloters.

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